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    Default Musical instrument cluster changed - is it now illegal?

    terminal year my cluster had to be replaced and when they replaced it I lost all my mileage and they said they couldn't restore it.Anyone had this happen or know how to restore it?
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    It is my understanding that the original mileage cannot be restored. Go on a re-create of the dealer work order where they listed your last mileage before the replacement. If yous sell your Spyder or merchandise in the futurity, yous volition need that info.

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    I take a copy and the dealer has it on file,but it volition notwithstanding make it harder to sell or trade in.

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    Yeah I had mine replaced I wrote down the hours earlier I bought it in to become replaced, well if you lot had it in shop lately you could get mileage off of that service record ..

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    I had cluster replaced. Miles to zero. Never left the shop, and so I know my verbal miles. But, in nearly states, Florida included, the odometer does not accurately show the total miles and is therefore "True Miles Unknown, Warning Odometer Discrepancy". Sounds like a shot to the jewels when it comes to a sale.

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    By police, the dealer MUST gear up the mileage to zero if any work on the odometer necessitates irresolute the mileage on the odometer. Information technology is a felony to muck with odo readings.

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    Title 49 - TRANSPORTATION
    SUBTITLE VI - MOTOR VEHICLE AND DRIVER PROGRAMS
    PART C - Data, STANDARDS, AND REQUIREMENTS
    Affiliate 327 - ODOMETERS
    Sec. 32704 - Service, repair, and replacement
    From the U.S. Authorities Publishing Office, world wide web.gpo.gov

    �32704. Service, repair, and replacement

    (a) Adjusting Mileage.�A person may service, repair, or replace an odometer of a motor vehicle if the mileage registered past the odometer remains the aforementioned as before the service, repair, or replacement. If the mileage cannot remain the aforementioned�

    (one) the person shall adjust the odometer to read goose egg; and

    (2) the owner of the vehicle or agent of the owner shall attach a written detect to the left door frame of the vehicle specifying the mileage before the service, repair, or replacement and the engagement of the service, repair, or replacement.

    (b) Removing or Altering Notice.�A person may not, with intent to defraud, remove or alter a discover attached to a motor vehicle as required past this section.

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    Quote Originally Posted past IdahoMtnSpyder View Post

    By law, the dealer MUST set the mileage to nada if any work on the odometer necessitates irresolute the mileage on the odometer. It is a felony to muck with odo readings.

    Not to nitpick, only the police force you quoted seems to read in paragraph a, the logged mileage may exist restored to the truthful mileage when repairs are a complished. Not seeing where it is mandatory to reset to cypher.

    Regarding the Spyder, information technology seems to exist a serious oversight that BUDS lacks the capability to properly reset the odometer as it was previously. Certainly is 1 method to prevent odometer tampering.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post

    They do not restore the mileage when you replace the instrument cluster merely for some reason they can restore the egine hours of use. Get figure... Do wonder as it must be a buds thing.

    They do no restore the engine hours. Considering information technology was never lost when replacing the instrument cluster. Engine hours are stored in the ECU.


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    I had something starting the "glass" and went to dealer. They instructed me how to remove and clean. It the cluster was replaced my mileage would be lost and I would have to use for a new title that reflects the mileage at replacement.

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    They are also not reset when the engine is replaced.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMK View Post

    Non to nitpick, but the law yous quoted seems to read in paragraph a, the logged mileage may be restored to the true mileage when repairs are a complished. Not seeing where it is mandatory to reset to zippo.

    Regarding the Spyder, it seems to be a serious oversight that BUDS lacks the adequacy to properly reset the odometer every bit it was previously. Certainly is 1 method to prevent odometer tampering.

    Yeah, I had to think nigh the wording too as information technology does seem to be contradictory. Merely I call back the out given in (a) for replacement means if the odometer comes from the supplier or manufacturer or a professional speedometer shop with the mileage already prepare, then it can exist used and no notation of mileage disparity is required. Otherwise, the only adjustment a repair person is permitted to make is to reset the mileage to zero. Because of rampant tampering in years past Congress basically said no person, except the odometer manufacturer or service facility, volition be immune to mess with the odometer reading.

    Equally far equally BUDs not beingness able to modify an odometer reading, it would open up the door to odometer tampering and that is conspicuously a violation of the Federal police. In that location'south an interesting give-and-take on this page about odometer fraud. https://www.simple-automobile-answers.com/O...Tampering.html. In short, the commodity says a professional speedometer facility may change the mileage on a new odo to match the one-time, but they have to do it manually! They must have been sent both the erstwhile and new odometers to make the change and so the vehicle volition not exist driven during this time. If the mileage is adequately loftier it could take a couple of weeks to practise that. If the input spins the speedometer at 120 mph it would take over 10 days to reach 30,000 miles!

    The required sticker on the door post and the service social club showing the mileage before the alter are legal documents and are only as valid as a set of numbers on the odometer. Of course, if you desire to collude with a kleptomaniacal service technician, then all bets are off!


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    I got my ace back today, they replaced the multifuction gauge, brake reservoir kit and handlebar clamp spiral. Just it had over vii,000 miles on it when I dropped it off. It had 16 miles when I got it dorsum. Equally far as I know it is illegal to modify odometer mileage for any reason . I should be transferred with new approximate. I will practise some more checking side by side week. Whatever thoughts?

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    Did you lot get any paperwork indicating the odometer had been changed on a specific date and what the mileage to that date was?

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    Yep my ticket shows the mileage, but according to NHTSA information technology is illegal to modify it. I will phone call them Monday.

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    I would think that if they gave you paperwork that stated the milage, they did their part. It's up to you to state the correct mileage when it'southward sold.

    If you sold or traded your Spyder without stating what YOU KNEW to be the actual, correct milage, and so you would be committing a fraud.

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    You lot didn't modify information technology, the odometer was swapped out. This happens with autos at times as well. It would be problematic if you sold the bike and didn't mention that it was changed out at 7000 miles. I do non know if there is some manner to identify this on a motorcycle such every bit a sticker somewhere or if the information is stored with a championship/registration. In NYC you have to certify the odometer reading is accurate when transferring ownership.

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    Quote Originally Posted past oregoncoast View Post

    I got my ace back today, they replaced the multifuction guess, brake reservoir kit and handlebar clench screw. Simply it had over 7,000 miles on it when I dropped information technology off. Information technology had sixteen miles when I got it back. Every bit far every bit I know information technology is illegal to modify odometer mileage for any reason . I should be transferred with new gauge. I volition exercise some more than checking next week. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmith8695 View Post

    You didn't change it, the odometer was swapped out. This happens with autos at times also. It would be problematic if you sold the bicycle and didn't mention that it was changed out at 7000 miles. I practice non know if there is some manner to identify this on a motorcycle such as a sticker somewhere or if the data is stored with a championship/registration. In NYC you have to certify the odometer reading is authentic when transferring ownership.

    I don't recollect it should exist my responsibility to remember and or go along a slice of paper because can am didn't figure out a manner to transfer mileage. I am honest but what if someone else is non. Plus it is really annoying to accept to keep track of mileage for maintenance. Information technology is just unacceptable to me.
    The dealer did say they can keep track of hours on the car, non much assistance to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aufgeblassen47 View Post

    Unbelievably, my Diesel fuel engine (which SHOULD be good for 100s of 1000s of miles) BLEW recently at on 113,000!!! It was cheaper (supposedly) but not inexpensive to swap engines with a used one. The replacement engine had 25,000 less miles on it. So I can study actual mileage when selling is 25,000 less than what odometer says?

    Don't retrieve so. Mileage is based on the vehicle not the engine.

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    MC odometers are swapped all the time, some for failure, others to upgrade. New odometer should state 0 miles, aught illegal nigh it.

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    Jerbears mail nailed it.

    If you sell it YOU are to disclose the actual mileage.
    Aught nefarious here.
    I'm a big fan of reading the actual regulations.


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